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City Council votes no on Tin Can water pong, darts application

April 25, 2016

At the last meeting of City Council, council voted 5-0 against an application for an entertainment license brought forward by newly-opened bar, Tin Can.

Tin Can applied for the license March 10, wanting to add darts, Connect Four, water pong and table games to its repertoire. Listed on the consent agenda of the council’s agenda, the application was on the docket for approval without any discussion until Mayor Pro Tem Ruth Beier raised concerned about approval.

Beier criticized the bar, saying it is “not what we’re trying to say about East Lansing.”

Referring to the window displays of the bar, Beier called the sign that reads "Good Beer Cheap Friends" was not something she wanted to show her parents or show her kids when she came to visit downtown East Lansing.

Beier further explained when Tin Can wanted to open the key thing to allowing Tin Can to open was that it wasn’t asking for an entertainment license. A point of contention, however, was that the bar wanted to stay open until 2 a.m.

The argument against the 2 a.m. license was East Lansing had too many bars open until 2 a.m., Beier said during the meeting.

But now Tin Can wanted a entertainment license, despite not asking for one originally.

“What they want to do is have beer pong — they’re calling it water pong, which I think is also insulting,” Beier said. “Darts, other games, and I just don't think we need another establishment like that downtown.”

Beier urged her fellow councilmembers to vote no on the application but said she’d be willing to talk about an entertainment license if the bar would open for lunch, instead of its later time at 3 p.m.

Furthermore council talked about whether or not Tin Can was meeting its 50-50 requirement, a requirement in the city which states East Lansing places serving alcohol must have 50 percent of their sales come from food.

Bars have to submit a report of 50-50 requirement quarterly, but Tin Can has yet to do so because they haven’t had to submit it yet, zoning administrator Darcy Schmitt said.

Following that discussion, councilmember Shanna Draheim said despite what was on the windows, Tin Can is serving the student market, which is “a huge protected portion of our population.”

Furthermore, councilmember Susan Woods commented and said the first decision to allow Tin Can to open provided a floor plan that made it easier to meet the 50-50 requirement and worried allowing the entertainment license for games would “diminish the eating setup.”

Council then voted 5-0 against the measure before Schmitt could raise her concern about the vote. She said the original floor plan showed game spaces along with tables for eating.

Furthermore, she said an entertainment license was not sought right away was because the owner thought the permit only applied to the use of a DJ.

Council however held no further discussion on the matter and the application was denied. 

Tin Can representatives did not respond to multiple requests for comment. 

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