Column calling for acceptance overlooks Christian population
(Last updated: 11/16/08 6:48pm)In response to Thea Neal’s column Keep fighting for same-sex marriage (SN 11/7), I am saddened by the hostility of this article, which criticizes people of faith and those who do not agree with the practice of homosexuality. The Bible does not say “no” to the homosexuals, it says “no” to the practice of homosexuality. Yes, as stated in the column, Jesus is all about love. However, Jesus is also about not practicing homosexuality, not as a matter of hate, but as a plan to experience love as God intended.
The column sarcastically states, “Jesus isn’t a registered voter in California (kind of hard to do after you die).” This statement is a witty way of bashing those who believe in Christ. Through the author’s angry words, she fails to follow what she so passionately wants: the acceptance of others. Jesus’ followers are different too, so they should also be accepted. People of faith and those who abstain from various sexual practices also have reasons for their convictions. Followers of Christ follow the Bible as an “owner’s manual” for life and the author is God.
The fact of the matter is same-sex marriage does affect us. The very moral foundation our country was built upon is being questioned. I believe same-sex marriage affects me personally. This is not about “hating the gays.” I am simply saying Jesus does love the gays and expects his followers to also love them. Jesus has a loving plan for all mankind; a plan He was willing to die for. His plan includes homosexuals but excludes the practice of homosexuality.
Roshalle VanDorp
English and Chinese freshman
Originally Published: 11/16/08 6:31pm
















I can't come up with a snarky name
11/16/08 7:11pmHow about instead of just saying that gay rights affects you, why not give some examples so that I can shoot their legitimacy down before I go to bed?
I can't come up with a snarky name
11/16/08 7:11pmsorry…I meant ‘gay rights affect you’.
Why restrict others' freedoms?
11/16/08 7:14pmI have to disagree with you. The first amendment allows us freedom of religion; there is not an official religion for the United States. While your religious beliefs tell you that you should love “as God intended”, the rest of us may have different religious beliefs that don’t include the teachings of your God or Jesus, as is our right. It is unconstitutional to limit others freedoms based on one religious belief. I cannot understand how who someone else chooses to love could possibly affect you.
Ken
11/16/08 7:22pmThis letter is a good example of why devoutly religious people have a mental illness.
What?!?!
11/16/08 7:47pm“The fact of the matter is same-sex marriage does affect us.”
Really, Roshelle? Did all hell break loose when homosexual couples began marrying in California before that proposal passed banning same-sex marriages? I have a hard time believing that anyone marrying anyone be they man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman affecting me in any way.
Additionally, I don’t remember Jesus taking any position on homosexuality.
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Bible Says...
11/16/08 10:02pmLev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”
Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them”
1 Cor. 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
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Bystander.
11/16/08 10:22pmBible Says. Roshalle.
You really need to pick up the book UnChristian. As a Christian myself, it’s been a unique and powerful read. It’ll help you think outside the box a bit.
Jason Van Dyke
11/16/08 10:42pmGiven ACORN’s antics during this past election cycle, I would not be surprised to find Jesus of Nazareth registered to vote in at least one state – including California.
Why restrict others' freedoms?
11/16/08 10:43pmI still don’t see how what the bible says has anything to do with how laws should made.
What?!?!
11/16/08 10:52pmQuoting Leviticus when I state that I remember nothing about Jesus stating his opinions on homosexuality. Way to go that Mr. Bible Says! Bravo! Let’s bring the Old Testament into a New Testament discussion!
Besides if we want to start bring good old Leviticus into this doesn’t it also mention that the eating of pork is prohibited? Awful lot of Christians that eat pork aren’t there?
Perhaps I’m not making point clear to you knuckleheads.
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Jason Van Dyke
11/16/08 10:55pmThis letter and the responses ignore the most fundamentally important aspect of this issue: the word “marriage” has to mean something. Until the very end of the 20th century, I am not aware of it ever having been used to define anything other than a relationship between man and woman. This is not to say that homosexuality has not existed for a very long time – it very clearly has.
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What?!?!
11/16/08 11:16pm“I would take some CLE classes to improve my understanding of the issues, specialize in niche divorce cases, market cheaply to the gay community, and have a very good chance at making a great deal of money”
How wonderful Jason… You really do have a heart of gold don’t you?
The Grinch
11/17/08 5:19amJason, do you really think the proponents of gay marriage are worried about the label? Also, don’t go all slippery slope because you’re against animal rights. I’m surprised you didn’t bring up incest for this discussion!
Joe W.
11/17/08 8:31amThank goodness we are discussing this rather than the war or the economy!
RB
11/17/08 9:06am“This letter is a good example of why devoutly religious people have a mental illness”
I am a devout Christian with a PhD in chemistry but according to Ken I am metal…???
D-bag Jason
11/17/08 9:15amJason,
Give it up about ACORN. It’s only voter fraud if someone claiming to be “Jesus of Nazareth” showed up to vote at the polls. Plus, based on what the article claims, Jesus probably would’ve voted for Prop 8, so you’d like it.
Huh?
11/17/08 9:17am“His plan includes homosexuals but excludes the practice of homosexuality.”
Can you be a homosexual without “the practice of homosexuality”? If not, then “His plan” does not include homosexuals, but instead includes their “conversion or salvation” to heterosexuality.
Tim
11/17/08 9:27amthe author’s angry words, she fails to follow what she so passionately wants: the acceptance of others.
I’m tired of this argument from Christians who vote against homosexual rights. You are asking people to accept legal intolerance. That isn’t going to happen and shouldn’t happen. The author and those who opposed Prop 8 want equality, acceptance and tolerance for all, including Christians. That position doesn’t require them to accept intolerance.
If anyone is being hypocritical, it’s the author. Who votes against tolerance and then demands it for their own views.
What?!?!
11/17/08 9:46am“I am a devout Christian with a PhD in chemistry but according to Ken I am metal…???”
Probably not. I think Ken is just trying to spread the love, or lack there of. Although to be quite frank, I’ve known quite a few PhD’s and many are quite insane.
J. Edward Tremlett
11/17/08 11:00amI suppose you could be metal, even though you’re a Christian with a PHD in Chemistry. It’s all about the attitude – do you rock it all night long, or do you veg out to Air Supply. Metal is a state a mind.
Wait.
J. Edward Tremlett
11/17/08 11:12amJVD: “Like I have said before, I am really indifferent to gay people.”
I call bullshit:
read here
Here
“here“https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1367436653886947152&postID=4011880663427829836
and here
If you are really indifferent as to whether someone’s gay or not, JVD, then why does the word “faggot” come out of your mouth whenever you get angry with a homosexual?
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J. Edward Tremlett
11/17/08 11:13amOOps, that link didn’t go well. Try this
JC
11/17/08 12:42pmThis is one of the most ridiculous, backwards and insulting letters I’ve ever read. I hope most people have the ability to see the hate that permeates this letter even though the author tries to disguise it as love.
J.H. Christ
11/17/08 12:59pmI say let them get married, for the sake of love. However, no legal benefits should be extended. i.e Health Insurance, taxes, etc…
Because that is what this is really about.-Money
Everyone wins.
BTW
11/17/08 1:03pmBy the way, I plan to marry my dog Rocky and add him to my health insurance. Vet bills are high for an older dog.