http://statenews.com In an effort to unite the Democratic Party, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., officially released her delegates Wednesday. Finally. At long last, Clinton took her hard-earned delegates aside, thanked them, and for the first time, encouraged them to vote for and work to elect Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., who will presumably accept his official nomination tonight. en-us Gryphon 2.2.3b-tsn (woodward)/Foundry5 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:44:10 -0400 webmaster@statenews.com http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21214 For all the new students at MSU, please read this opinion and understand that your “independent voice” is really just another cog in the ( D ) machine. And “the creation of an American Opportunity Tax Credit to aid students in their first year of college — something all college students should be interested in”; why should all college students be interested in having someone else pay their way, why can’t some college students be interested in working hard and earning what they get? Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:15:19 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21214 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21219 As some who has worked hard and earned everything they have, I can wholeheartedly say that college would’ve been a whole hell of a lot more fun if someone else financed it. There’s plenty of time to be under stress about money and paying for things in life. There’s certainly not a poverty of it. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:00:17 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21219 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21221 GPM- Read Barak Hussein Obama’s book “The Arrogance of Entitlement” Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:16:04 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21221 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21222 Yeah, I’m sure Barack Obama, as a black man growing up in a period of racial strife in our country and someone who worked his way through Harvard Law school, knows first hand of America’s “entitlement.” Unlike John McCain, a legacy of Admirals who had his education paid for by US tax dollars at the Naval Academy and took advantage of his entitlement by screwing around and graduating 5th from the bottom of his class. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:03 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21222 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21223 “The State News reported this week that she still had a responsibility to represent her delegation, and that means voting for Clinton at the convention.” That sentence makes no sense. “Which begs the question: Clinton officially endorsed Obama way back in June, so why wait until the convention to release her delegates?” Please please please stop misusing the phrase “beg the question.” Also, during the roll call vote (a procedure that happens at every Democratic Convention), Clinton moved to suspend the process and vote for Obama by acclamation. I’m not really sure how much more you expect her to do. And any “Clinton supporter” who is now threatening to vote for McCain was obviously only supporting her because she is a woman. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:27:35 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21223 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21224 Beg the question Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:31:02 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21224 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21233 arr – If there’s anything more annoying than playing the race card, its playing the gender card! Stop making excuses! Joe – yer stoopid! Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:07:32 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21233 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21236 I should ammend my last statement to say “any Clinton supporter who is threatening to vote for McCain was only voting for her because she was a woman, or is bitter that his/her candidate lost.” Please tell me why someone who sincerely supported Clinton would vote for McCain instead of Obama. And, omg, I wasn’t making excuses, and I didn’t play any ‘card’. gfys Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:34:17 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21236 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21237 “omg” – good argument…. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:23 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21237 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21240 Actually Joe omg’s argument was as good as yours was. First, no one at any point said or implied Obama did not work hard for his education. Secondly, if you think severing in Vietnam wasn’t payment enough for McCain’s education you’re an idiot. Third, do you really think that only the top of any given graduation glass should be allowed to have dreams and aspirations of succeeding in this country? Bottom line, Joe – yer stoopid! Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:17:43 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21240 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21244 arr3 You did play the gender card and I told you to stop making excuses. Erudite come-back – “gfys”. That stands for God feels yer stoopid! like he does Joe. Now, don’t come back with your far-left-wing, whacko liberal jibberish about the non-existence of Gad. All you need to know about him is he feels yer stoopid!(Joe too) Go fix that! Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:10:12 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21244 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21248 Bill Lumberg, Wow… First, I didn’t have an argument it was a comment. I was responding to your post and the “Arrogance of Entitlement” post which together clearly implies Obama feels people don’t need to work hard, but rather are entitled to hand outs. I was merely pointing out that Obama did work hard to not only make it into Harvard, but to also work to pay his way through school. Second, did you forget we had a draft during Vietnam? Meaning even those (ESPECIALLY those) who’s education was not paid by US tax dollars served our country. Not to discredit McCain’s service, he’s a hero, but he at least got a free education prior to Vietnam. Third, what about my post implies I don’t think people at the bottom of their class can’t dream? My point was merely that McCain did not take advantage of the privilege of his family’s legacy. All accounts of McCain at Annapolis are of his debauchery and overall disregard of authority. I do not believe McCain tried to succeed at the Naval Academy because I believe the man is smart enough to have graduated much higher in his class. Do you disagree? Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:03:06 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21248 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21249 You could say “omg’s” “argument” was a comment, too… so I apologize. Either way, “yer stoopid” is a great post worthy of intelligent discussion. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:17:37 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21249 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21258 “I was responding to your post and the “Arrogance of Entitlement” post which together clearly implies Obama feels people don’t need to work hard, but rather are entitled to hand outs.” Huh? How did you gleam this? GPM says he/she wished someone else had paid for his/her college, and haveaheart replied with Obama’s book on how thinking one’s self to be entitled to a handout is bad. Where on earth did you make the amazing jump in logic seem to have taken? I’m still UNclear on the clearly implied suggestion that Obama favors handouts. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:06:49 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21258 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21260 To further rebut the “clearly implies Obama”, I never said anything about Obama. I took the quote from the SN editorial “the creation of an American Opportunity Tax Credit to aid students in their first year of college — something all college students should be interested in” which as I read it means the SN feels that ALL COLLEGE students should be interested in a handout. Since when does the SN = Obama? My guess, and it is just that a guess, is that Obama would say he is in favor of “free” college only for the “under privileged”. Please note that I recognize the previous sentence as pure speculation on my part so don’t come back with the Obama never said that type arguments. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:22:39 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21260 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21261 I guess it’s unanimous – Joe, yer stoopid! Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:38:04 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21261 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21264 I concede my overreaction to the “Arrogance of Entitlement” post caused a jump in logic and perhaps a misread of your original post, Mr. Lumberg. (And maybe that does classify me as “stoopid.”) Since it’s been clarified to me, I agree that not every college student is, or should be, interested in a handout. However, making college free for all Americans would not create an “arrogance of entitlement.” People would still need to work hard to get the grades, to prove to employers they have work ethic and committment, and succeed in the workforce. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:58:08 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21264 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21267 I will withdrawl my yer stoopid comment Joe. But I will strongly disagree with your statement “However, making college free for all Americans would not create an “arrogance of entitlement.”” Every handout adds up to a since of entitlement, in my ever humble opinion. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:16:43 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21267 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21268 sense of entitlement not since. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:18:16 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21268 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21276 gfys=go fuck yourself. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:44:10 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/21276