Beatings of 2 men in E.L. still being investigated

“Police are not releasing a description of the attackers”

I wonder why…

I wonder why they are talking about homeless people at the end of the article if the attackers got out of cars.
Do East Lansing homeless own cars? And travel in packs, attacking people for seemingly no reason (not even taking their money)?

If you had seen the trauma caused by these acts of calculated brutality, where weapons were used, you would NEVER walk alone in East Lansing, and you would always be prepared to use your pepper spray. This is a warning to people who ignore their surroundings, by listening to their iPods. This was an extremely violent crime on to RANDOM citizens. We must be more cautious! A CCW is a must, where martial law is imminent. SB.

I severely question the State News’ motive in writing this article.
I agree with the above posted. What the hell does the homeless population have to do with this attack. Clearly this was not a group of SUV driving homeless dudes.
RELEASE THE DESCRIPTION. If the attackers were white say so. If they were black say so.
Have some integrity please.

“But Alexander said there occasionally are homeless people in the area at night or the morning and the neighborhood can be a little scary.”

Really State News? That is pathetic. This obviously has nothing to do with homeless people and putting that in there is an implicit assertion that they are the problem.

Again, as an MSU student who walks frequently by these areas where the attacks occured: PRINT THE DESCRIPTION SO STUDENTS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES!

I agree. The inclusion of the homeless in this story when the attack was perpetrated by SUV-owning sadistic thugs was pointless and distracting.

If the police do not apprehend these jerks soon, then a description should be provided so that community members can be watchful.

I hope readers are aware that if they hold a CPL and own a rifle with a folding stock, (AKM, AR15) it can be legally carried concealed in a backpack. NOT ON CAMPUS.

*not legal advice

Also, did anyone notice that the article says that the first victim’s face was badly beaten, but he didn’t see the attackers?
1. How would he not see the attackers if he had been beaten in the face and
2. Why wouldn’t the police or SN investigate that or at least want to know why he didn’t see the attackers if he was attacked in the face.

I would appreciate better attention to detail.

Just to reiterate what’s already been said:

Also, EL police, why wouldn’t you want to have help in catching the assailants?

And why mention the homeless? Dropping that in there implies that all homeless people are bad and would DRIVE up in a car and attack people.

To Ryan: he didn’t see the attackers b/c he was hit in the head from behind first and knocked out. He wasn’t conscious for the rest of the atack.

of the quotes that you print, statenews. The homeless remark is definitely uncalled for and irrelevant. Also, did anyone else notice that it gives us the area that one of the quoted students lives, and then quotes him telling us how “easy” it would be to break in? Not too smart.

Come to East Lansing and hide out. Don’t have to worry about being caught, the only ones who know what you look like are the police and you can see them coming a mile away! WHAT KIND OF MORONS ARE IN CHARGE HERE!! You not only put 40,000 students in possible jepordy but you take away 80,000 eyes that could assist in capture…PRINT THE TRUTH, WHAT ARE YOU MORONS THINKING???

sounds more like a battery than an assault. An assault does not involve the physical touching of another.

The description of three of the assailants are:

*Suspect #1”
Black Male
5’11” 197lbs
Short hair w/goatee
last seen wearing blue jeans and green hooded sweatshirt

*Suspect #2”
White Male
6’4” 220lbs
Long curly black hair, ear ring
Last seen wearing gray jogging pants with a black hooded sweatshirt

*Suspect #3”
Asian Male
5’4” 125lbs
brown eyes, shoulder length black hair
last seen wearing black jeans, with a black coat (w/a fur hood)

There are several reason why you don’t print the name of the suspects/assailants. First, what good does it do if all the police or victim know about the suspects is that they were a group of all black guys, or all white guys, or a mix of black and asian, or white and hispanic?

Are you going to avoid all groups of black people? Are you going to avoid groups of all white people? How about blacks and hispanics?

Are those descriptions real? That post is not helpful at all if they’re not and will only lead to further confusion.

Knowing the suspects descriptions may not be helpful (without sketches at least), but random, brutal acts of violence need to be reported to the public. Definitely another reminder not to walk around anywhere at night alone, whether you’re female or male.

At the same time, EL residents need to stand up and speak out against this type of violence. Whether these attackers were MSU students, EL residents, or from outside of town, this is unacceptable. The longer we are complacent about violence in our communities, the worse it will get for all of us.

ELPD won’t catch these guys, that’d be work that actually SERVEd and PROTECTed the public. I bet you could find multiple people that were issued parking tickets by PACE within one block and 15 minutes of the attacks.

That area of East Lansing is THE PRIME region of downtown EL for off-campus students.

@disappointed:

that is my point exactly. Descriptions won’t help in a situation like this unless they are actually able to help people describe an assailant (I.e the bad guy had a scar on his face, etc.). To release info that describes a person’s race alone or even also their height (unles it’s unusual, like they’re exceptionally tall or exceptionally short) isn’t productive. The ELPD, as much as some people may not appreciate them, realizes that and is trying not to promote unfounded panic.

The police don’t want to ‘promote’ unfounded panic? If only every newspaper and tv station across the country could do the same…I can see the stories now, ‘old woman was beaten and robbed but the authorities don’t want you to worry, everything is going to be all right’…sounds like a court case taken to the ‘supreme’ level to me. Someone will eventually have to accept responsibility for this action when someone decides to sue for negligence. ‘Unfounded panic?’, everyone is responsible for their own actions…including criminals.

To the post “do not sound like assaults:” assault can occur with or without battery. It’s still assault. I hope to god you aren’t in law school. If you are thinking of going to law school, re-think your options.

Also, here’s a couple lessons to take from this:

1)don’t walk by yourself at 2am even if you think you can “hold your own.” We live in a city with 40,000 students, crime is going to happen. Don’t put yourself in a vulnerable position.

2)Avoid “verbal confrontations” with a car full of strangers at 2 in the morning. nothing good is going to come of it.

Maybe if the police would concentrate more of their efforts on crimes of violence instead of making a HUGE deal out of the little stuff (i.e. kids throwing fireworks, personal marijuana use, blowing a .06 after being stopped while walking home),maybe we would all be a little safer.

“Concentrate on the big stuff!” You could not have said it better. I hope you’re a permanent EL resident with those views!

This is ridiculous. Notwithstanding the stupid and groundless attack on MSU’s homeless population at the end of this article, this just highlights how utterly incompetent the MSU and East Lansing Police Departments are at investigating anything that isn’t “did this 18 year get drunk/did this 18 year old smoke weed?”

Do something other than generate revenue for the City. Do something with regard to JUSTICE.

To EL Police: where are you when all this is going on? Start protecting these students instead of focusing on tickets. Safety should be #1 priority – NO EXCEPTIONS.