http://statenews.com Some Michigan students are saying the prospect of a new Lansing power plant will hinder the state’s renewable energy industry, causing graduates looking for jobs in the industry to move out of state. en-us Gryphon 2.2.3b-tsn (woodward)/Foundry5 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:20:01 -0400 webmaster@statenews.com http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19807 Unbelievable, throughout the article you quote policy people and students against the plant and final in the last line you quote someone that actually spent his life working on alternate energy sources? Why because he is taking a practical approach and that goes against your crazy hippie eco beliefs? Another sad slanted SN article. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:45:02 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19807 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19822 Regarding Mr. Lumberg’s comment, I don’t think anyone wanting an improved, sustainable environment should be classified as a “hippie”. It’s called being a responsible citizen. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:02:03 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19822 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19825 No, not accepting something that is 70/30 is not being a “responsible citizen”, it is being an obstructionist. And there is a good chance an environmental obstructionist could be classified as a hippie. Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:59:09 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19825 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19862 Lumberg, hum with me, goosfraba, this too shall pass. Let the hippies get their way, let the rolling blackouts start, let them be inconvenienced when they can’t turn on their air conditioners next summer. These people are self serving, they’ll change their minds when they finally feel the effects of irrationality at home. Sure Michigan State, Go Green! Praise Gaia, let us give her a sacrifice of prosperity! Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:10:05 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19862 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19881 $150 MILLION DOLLARS OF UNIVERSITY FUNDING IS OBTAINED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAXES, WHICH IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL TAX! THE ADMINISTRATION ARE CRIMINALS OF THE MOST WORST KIND! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KjBy_qp4Zc Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:05:26 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/19881 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/20507 Lumberg, You are so quick to attack the work of a well organized, intelligent group of Michigan students working to create jobs for our future. Coal energy is dirty, centralized, mined out of the state, provides minimal economic benefit through the supply chain and causes unseen economic externalities (cancer, asthma, habitat and species destruction, the destruction of the Appalachian Mountains through mountaintop removal coal mining, polluted water, I could easily keep going). Your thoughts on my role as a “paid lobbyist” and “hippy” is first of all wrong, but also degrading and close-minded. I actually work as a community organizer with youth that want to see our state move to a more sustainable future. In my limited free time, I study alternative energy at Lansing Community College, something your selective eyes decided to glaze over when reading this article. Truth is, I was born here in Michigan and am looking for true solutions to our economic problems. Regardless, this still may all sound like “crazy hippy beliefs” to you. Why don’t you take a look at the facts, check it http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/4/154146/9606: Between the start of the year and June 2008, the oil and gas industries spent $52.21 million lobbying Congress. Alternative energy industries spent $11.39 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. And look who’s tops on the alternative energy lobbying pile, with more than double the expenditures of the next on the list: 1. American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity: $1.87M 2. National Biodiesel Board: $679,913 3. Solar Energy Industries Association: $535,000 4. Clean Energy Group: $492,500 5. American Wind Energy Association: $460,379 6. Poet: $360,000 7. Rentech: $250,000 8. Green Hunter: $220,000 9. Noble Environmental Power: $200,000 10. GridPoint: $172,061 Yes, coal is now an energy “alternative” … just like in the 1800s! Notice that if you subtract coal and biodiesel — as I think you should — you end up with about 25 percent less lobbying money. No wonder the renewable tax credits keep getting blocked. (This is via Katie Fehrenbacher, who’s doing crackerjack work over on earth2tech.) Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:20:01 -0400 http://statenews.com/index.php/comment/view/20507